KNITMAN

January 31, 2012

USA IS NOT A XIAN COUNTRY (and was not supposed to be!)

Filed under: Uncategorized — Knitman @ 9:09 am

“Thomas Paine was a pamphleteer whose manifestos encouraged the faltering spirits of the country and aided materially in winning the war of Independence: 
I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of…Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all.” 
From: 
The Age of Reason by Thomas Paine, pp. 8,9 (Republished 1984, Prometheus Books, Buffalo, NY)”

“John Adams, the country’s second president, was drawn to the study of law but faced pressure from his father to become a clergyman. He wrote that he found among the lawyers ‘noble and gallant achievments” but among the clergy, the “pretended sanctity of some absolute dunces”. Late in life he wrote: “Twenty times in the course of my late reading, have I been upon the point of breaking out, “This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it!”

It was during Adam’s administration that the Senate ratified the Treaty of Peace and Friendship, which states in Article XI that “the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.” 
From: 
The Character of John Adams by Peter Shaw, pp. 17 (1976, North Carolina Press, Chapel Hill, NC) Quoting a letter by JA to Charles Cushing Oct 19, 1756, and John Adams, A Biography in his Own Words, edited by James Peabody, p. 403 (1973, Newsweek, New York NY) Quoting letter by JA to Jefferson April 19, 1817, and in reference to the treaty, Thomas Jefferson, Passionate Pilgrim by Alf Mapp Jr., pp. 311 (1991, Madison Books, Lanham, MD) quoting letter by TJ to Dr. Benjamin Waterhouse, June, 1814.”

“Thomas Jefferson, third president and author of the Declaration of Independence, said:”I trust that there is not a young man now living in the United States who will not die a Unitarian.” He referred to the Revelation of St. John as “the ravings of a maniac” and wrote: 
The Christian priesthood, finding the doctrines of Christ levelled to every understanding and too plain to need explanation, saw, in the mysticisms of Plato, materials with which they might build up an artificial system which might, from its indistinctness, admit everlasting controversy, give employment for their order, and introduce it to profit, power, and pre-eminence. The doctrines which flowed from the lips of Jesus himself are within the comprehension of a child; but thousands of volumes have not yet explained the Platonisms engrafted on them: and for this obvious reason that nonsense can never be explained.” 
From: 
Thomas Jefferson, an Intimate History by Fawn M. Brodie, p. 453 (1974, W.W) Norton and Co. Inc. New York, NY) Quoting a letter by TJ to Alexander Smyth Jan 17, 1825, and Thomas Jefferson, Passionate Pilgrim by Alf Mapp Jr., pp. 246 (1991, Madison Books, Lanham, MD) quoting letter by TJ to John Adams, July 5, 1814.”

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1 Comment »

  1. You are absolutely right. However, try and tell that to a Christian in this country. The issue seems to be that, whenever a Christian reads or hears the words, “…under God, or In God we Trust,” their brains can’t wrap around the fact that ALL religions have a diety and “God” is, simply, a human being race’s attempt to put a name upon the unnamable. For that matter, Christians have many names for “God,” several of which can be found in the Christian Bible. Using the belief that the reference to “God” in the Constitution means people should respect the beliefs of the religious, then it should be a belief in ALL religions, not just Christian. So, you have proved, both the U.S. (where I live) is a bigotted and narrow minded country (since it is populated by **shudder** people). There will be no end to this because people simply MUST believe that THEIR beliefs are the correct ones and THEIR God is the ONLY God and that everyone else is condemned (such a lovely thing for a loving God to do) to Hell. What contemptuous and arrogant belief it is to think any individual has the brain power to determine exactly WHO God is and that the founder of THEIR religion is the pure and correct one.

    Of course, we are bangoing our heads against the proverbial wall. Those who believe in fairy tales will continue to do so.

    Comment by Iris — January 31, 2012 @ 11:56 am


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